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Journal Entry: Mon Jun 30, 2014, 6:57 PM
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Interview conducted by inkblazers: 

All of us premium artists who participated are on this one. We are doing the next one right now it will become a series. :D 

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Mount Giant by mayshing



WHY:
Making one's comment meaningful and making it count has many benefits, especially in the art world.

Single words praise really does hold little weight, and just not making any comment also don't earn anyone anything, so bringing it up another level is good for both the artist, and the appreciator.


1. It starts conversations, and make friends: When you comment on people's work around, not limited to the artists you admire but also artists you can buddy with on different levels, you will find yourself rich with many art friends to discuss your own work and joy with. You will also find this skill useful when you make it into the professional world where you would be making comments to make connections.


2. Gets comments for your own work: when you give people meaningful comments that rewards them, you can ask for feedback for your own work easier, because you have invested in their work first. If you cold-call it's harder to get the same favor back. Many times you don't need to even ask, they will be looking to your way.


3. Make the community much more enjoyable: we all enjoy an active community that encourages, and guide one another with kind words and understanding.




TIPS:
1. Talk about how the artwork "feels" to you: if you observe the artist is trying to communicate a mood, or a feel, talk about what it means to you personally when you see it. If they see their intention has communicated, they will be very happy. Even if it didn't, you will seem like an interesting person.


2. Talk about the area that took the most work technically to achieve or execute: the other person will be happy to know their time spent, and attention to detail is noticed and appreciated.


3. Talk about the one little area you appreciate personally If you don't see anything else from point 1-2, use 3.


4. Appreciate what the artist is trying to achieve, and discuss where they actually are and what else they can do to get where they want to go. This perspective is very suited for artists in study.

5.Thank them for their time and effort, and let them know how it helps you Especially for people sharing some useful information on tutorials. This one is pretty straight forward, simply because they really don't have to do it, so its a favor to the community that they are sharing.

6. Make up your own short story from the artwork, this option is very entertaining for both sides. If you are a creative writer, definitely do that! 


Lastly, the feedback doesn't need to be long to count, it doesn't need to be a paragraph, it doesn't need to take 1-2 hours, it doesn't need to be a well informed critique, it can be even just one sentence, all it needs to do is show that you care. When you care, others care about you too. It's just that simple. (But if you did the above 5 points your comment would be a paragraph already. lol)

Any additional thoughts to add to this welcomed. 

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Journal Entry: Sat May 10, 2014, 1:14 AM
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Last April 24, :iconnanoji: 's grandmother was confined at Manila Adventist Medical Center because of clogged vein/s that caused her grandmother to suffer a half stroke.

Her grandma is fine now. The family is just clearing some documents for her discharge. She's under therapy too that's why the threats to her life lessened.

Today, they are asking for our assistance to lighten their family's burden on the hospital bills and for the coming days as grandma is still on her way to recovery.

More details in here IMPORTANT UPDATE!/posted with permission in behalf of nanoji by geremy-raven; geremy will relay all responses to this journal to nanoji and geremy will send her answers on her behalf. Thanks again. :thanks:
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Last April 24, nanoji's grandmother was confined at Manila Adventist Medical Center because of clogged vein/s that caused her grandmother to suffer a half stroke.
Her grandma is fine now. The family is just clearing some documents for her discharge. She's under therapy too that's why the threats to her life lessened. 
Today, they are asking for our assistance to lighten their family's burden on the hospital bills and for the coming days as grandma is still on her way to recovery.
For more details, just PM. 
Thank you very much.
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-- Taglish --
Last April 24, na-confine ang lola ni nanoji sa Manila Adventist Medical Center dahil sa baradong ugat sa utak na nag-sanhi ng pagkaka-half stroke ni lola.
Ayos naman na si lola sa ngayon.

Please send your donation paypal to: www.gofundme.com/96ihd4

I hope you can also post for her, thank you so much and you've always been a great help for all of us fellow artists. Keep it up always and God bless

Please PM or leave a note on her journal if you feel compelled to help.

Thank you

Alice by nanojiBlue Rose by nanojiRed Her by nanoji

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Kickstarter ends and Store opens!

Journal Entry: Mon May 5, 2014, 7:44 PM
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One thing ends another thing starts, that's life, right? X3
We didn't make it this time but a lot of good things still came out of it which is encouraging. 


I am happy to announce that our Store is open! store.altabestudio.com/



We now provide goodies pre-ordering (because I need the time to prepare/restock somethings) for goods, including manga cameo, T-shirts and stuff we offer. 

And I am also doing fanart prints give away. :) All you need is pay for the product cost and shipping. 

We are planning for the next kickstarter to be for Edepth Angel's Visual novel game, and we will attach the anime as our highest stretch goal. 

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-I dislike hentai, or yaoi (personal preference)


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32 hours left on KS

Journal Entry: Sun May 4, 2014, 8:57 AM
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And it looks like we are relaunching. lol Though people are still pledging which I am very grateful about! 

So what now? 
We are going to open up shop for those who are still interested in the products for pre-ordering on May 5th before we declare the campaign over:



Note: the store is paypal based and takes credit card

I have included Cameo choice for my manga (and will add 2Masters since someone is interested) as products in a limited fashion as well.

And we are going to rework our campaign planning and strategy for a relaunch for the remaining months of the year. I can't give a time yet but this will require me to rework quite alot of things. It's going to be a busy busy year for E-depth. O_o

If you want to have a last look at the campaign: kck.st/1oGFEHr

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Advice for inspired students

Journal Entry: Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:01 AM
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what is it like to work on a webcomic? 
A: Webcomics is really just comics hosted online... so for webcomic advice I really just have one advice, just do it. Don't think too deeply about it other wise you will have trouble starting. Don't think you need perfect drawing, don't think you need perfect story, just go and work at it eventually you will get to where you want. Here's an inspiration: www.mangahere.com/manga/onepun…

Once you start and get stuck somewhere, then search for a follow-up advice or come to me again. :) (Smile) 

How did it help with animation if at all? 
A: I think it helps with discipline, and you become familiar with your own timing because of steady update, you also draw constantly so your speed is faster, ready to be trained into animator, it also helps with your ability to draw characters at different angle, expressions, and storyboard for animation and sequential storytelling skills. Most of these skills doesn't come by as strongly if you only do single piece illustrations. Illustrations will train you on details, accuracy, single panel composition and impact. 

What would you recommend an aspiring student to do to aspire a career in film/animation?
A: Become a really good self-learner and just constantly improve your own ability. Once you stop learning that's when you start to fall behind. 


What would you recommend anyone starting from the ground-up? 

A: Do a short comic, or a test comic, then find a host online, there are free hosts like www.inkblazers.com/ and www.smackjeeves.com/ 

Do a really good thumbnail or banner, on internet that speaks for everything... 
Rewrite your logline and comic description until you can present the main conflict of your story the best you can, and keep it as simple as you can. People tend to gravitate toward "conflict" of the story. I don't really know why.... If your story is not about conflict, then just sell "light hearted" combine with cute... to a specific type of crowd. (they will eat it up) Or make it educational in some sense.


What's the best approach for starting a webcomic or animation?
A: 
Starting a comic: Chapter 1 is everything, plan for about 30-60 pages for chapter 1. 
Present the main character and his/her quest in chapter 1.
Present the tip of the conflict in chapter 1.
Present a strong struggle in chapter 1 if you can.
End chapter 1 with a strong/evil hook for chapter 2 if you can. It's your demo for the rest of the comic, redo chapter 1 several times if you need to, try to get as much feedback on chapter 1 as possible. 

From my exp, most people's (including myself) first chapter 1 tend to drag too long on character presentation, or present the conflict too quickly at the end and end really hastily. So try to avoid those problems. 

Tip 2: 
Don't try too hard to impress, making comics should become part of your own expression, either for your dream, your escape, your political view, or anything that matters to you. If a comic become your voice, it will become second nature to you. 

Tip3: Don't put too much text in.... Comic wise.... the most comfortable read is about 60-80% graphic, 20-40% text on the page. 

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Animation: Practice with tutorials first, do short looping seq first, then go for longer sequences and incorporate more things like voice actors and such. 
The rest is too complicated, it can't be finished in 1 note... I will keep putting out tutorials and you can ask me more questions after you watch them. 

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Jumping ahead a little bit into using photoshop to animate. Since I noticed....
some people still need to know some small tricks here and there to make their process faster animating in photoshop.
What this tutorial covers:
1. Animation tool - briefly
2. using layer function to animate
3. 3 passes of rough animation

This is what I do with mine currently. :) 

Edepth Anime's violin sound track released!

Journal Entry: Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:49 PM
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This is a Draft version of the whole sequence. (first part of it.) We will be able to finish the sound track and have better sound quality should the Kickstarter succeed. kck.st/1oGFEHr

Music composed by Matthew Chiang, and performed by Matthew Chiang and Isabelle Ku. 

Sound Equalizer: Matthew Chong

Thank you guys for volunteering to do this (can’t talk about payment yet until we have a budget ;_;  ) I’m so happy I finally get to hear his melody. >.<

Kolei’s voice is also released on Kickstarter update #11



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Kickstarter #6-7 Confession

Journal Entry: Thu Apr 3, 2014, 8:22 PM
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April Fool Confession by mayshing

See the latest update on KS site: www.kickstarter.com/projects/m…




James: Welcome back friends to the Conversation! Today I am joined by the creator of E-Depth Angel to talk about the Anime Kickstarter that was recently launched. Thank you for joining us today.

 A: Thank you so much for inviting me. :) It’s an honor to answer your questions.

James:  Why don’t we start off by talking a bit about E-Depth Angel? What made you want to make a webcomic?  

A:"In the past, I have always read about comics, western and eastern alike focusing on the power of force and wealth when it comes to a hero or heroine like character. While I loved the idea of relating to characters that stir my fantasy with their super powers or weapons, I can’t help but to feel empty walking away from this fantasy world back into my world, powerless. I want my audience to be able to walk away from my story with some kind of encouragement that can relate to their real life, to empower them with their decisions, while still create a world with new things they can discover. Taking something out of a fantasy world......." [Continue Reading]



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Kickstarter update#5-VA commentary

Journal Entry: Sat Mar 29, 2014, 1:35 PM
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Kickstarter Update#5  

Voice Actor Commentary: Brian Tubbs

 Brian, Randy and Kolei's voice actor and our acting director gives his commentary about the role, and the project.You can get a sense on how different his voice and Randy's voice are. I have always been amazed on how VAs can train themselves to do that. 

Brian is also in airforce, he actually was deployed during the production but made it home safely~ Thank God.  (Can't tell you how relieved I was) 

*W00t! DA made posting YT easier now! Good news for me, no more scripts, just copy/paste!



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Kickstarter Daily #6 interview

Journal Entry: Fri Mar 21, 2014, 4:33 PM
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Kickstarter Direct Link: kck.st/1oGFEHr

Anime webpage link: edepthanime.com


It's our big day so I am spamming everywhere! *for now!* 

Podcast-interview by mayshing

DAY 6 on Kickstarter: www.kickstarter.com/projects/m…

Interviewer: Aaron Fristik

Big thanks to Aaron who prepared the skype interview with a lot of heart and sensitivity. :) 

Just going to say, this interview has some of my most honest thoughts, the ups and downs of the productions, more about difficulties than anything. Every production is a challenge in small and big ways. 

Topic Covered: 

  • Intro (0-1 min)
  • Why Edepth is turning into anime (2-4 min)
  • Why we are running Kickstarter (4-6 min)
  • The voice actors and how they are chosen (7-8 min)
  • Difficulties in choosing the right actors (8-9 min)
  • About Angel and Angel's Voice (9-11 min)
  • What fans can take from Edepth (11-15 min)
  • About Lien and Lien's Voice (16-18 min)
  • Challenges on the voice acting (19-20 min)
  • What's going into the show (20-21 min)
  • What's different between anime and manga (23-26 min)
  • Cost of the anime itself (26 min-27 min)
  • Cost of an anime series (27-29 min)
  • Who will do the Animation (29:30-32 min) 
  • Challenges on the animation process (32-34 min)
  • About Rewards (35-38 min)
  • Final thought (38-40 min) 

PS: At 13 mins in, I am not against "anime violence." *in case anyone took it wrong...* a@ Pardon my grammar >////< 

Aaron is a very passionate interviewer, I will def recommend him to any of you who wants to run a kickstarter on comic or animation! :D


Please fav/reblog/borrow the images all you like to help spread the word and link people to the campaign! You have my permission!

PLUG: Our studio long time member :iconguiled-dragon: decided to help out by giving DA points to those who help spread the word too: (she didn't have to, but thank you elysse!)
  Anime Kickstarter Launch+dA Point raffleThat's right! The Kickstarter Project I am a part of is now a go!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mayshing/e-depth-angel-anime
--EDIT--
Reached our first 3k!! Still have a long way to go! Please signal boost/plug in if you can! :points:
Please contribute if you're a fan of the series or simply want to help us out. I am a VA on the project as well as a few other roles. We would very much love to get this made and actually be paid for our hard work. A full animation would be a dream come true!
If you want to learn more about the series check out the series' home page: http://mayshing.com/edepthanime/
There you can read more about the anime, read the actual webcomic (which has been around for 10 years) as well see the Kickstarter.
Animation example:

< "Please help us out! Even win a prize!"
And that's right! I'm offering a point raffle prize to any one who signal boosts the campaign


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Free animation software in development

Journal Entry: Tue Feb 11, 2014, 4:25 PM
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Plug: Synfig a free and open source 2D vector animation software is doing a crowdsourcing campaign on indiegogo to improve it www.indiegogo.com/projects/set… I was wondering if you could help spread the word. 





My friend :iconzeiva: just launched her KS, if you are a VN fan please support! 



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Plug: the cat lady's taking commissions

Journal Entry: Mon Feb 3, 2014, 9:54 PM
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:iconlossingfeathers: LossingFeathers - she is an ink wash indy artist that has a unique touch for colored ink wash paintings and oil paintings. 
(this kind of ink wash paintings are water proof, even flood can't destroy it!) 
She's in great need for some commissions because she lost her car. >.< 
If you love cats, FF series, slayers, Marvel, DC heroes, DnD stuff, she's the one for you! :D 
She's a hard worker and good communicator as well for an artist. A plus! Please note her if you are interested, thanks for checking!

Kitten Project: Link by LossingFeathersKitten Project: Avengers Loki by LossingFeathersThe Many Shades of Cooke by LossingFeathers



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Black Hat Film needs your help!!!

Journal Entry: Thu Jan 2, 2014, 3:43 PM
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The Black Hat Girl by mayshing

A promo piece I did for the upcoming feature film in the making “Black Hat” *My mock up shot on how the main girl Dandi will look in the anime*

Spazattackplz  They are starting a fundraising at Seed&Spark website which will support the campaign if we meet 80% of our goal: www.seedandspark.com/studio/bl…


Yasuko Takasu (Fangirling) [V1]   If we are successful we will get to make a movie unlike any other movies seen in the states, where we can get to feature the anime culture, cosplay, cons, and fly in Director Shinichiro Watanabe who made Cowboy Bepop and Death note and other cool shows to be on cameo. As well as 300 cosplayers that signed up! Thoughts: WHEN DOES AN ANIME DIRECTOR EVER GET A CAMEO IN A MOVIE?! It’s too rare! We need to make that happen!
It’s an exciting project I really want to see it taken flight, plus the crew is super nice. Please help spread the word!

Logline: Desperate to get to an anime convention halfway across the country to meet her favorite anime director Shinichiro Watanabe, a quirky teen artist “borrows” her sister’s car, kidnaps her wily, black sheep grandfather and together they embark on the road trip of a lifetime.

 

Slamheadplz We REALLY REALLY NEED Your Support for the first few days of the campaign, the Director Robbie is visiting Sundance film festival in a few days and we really want to use this campaign to sell it to get more funding coming in to meet the actual goal of the production! So any help is greatly appreciated!






Edepth Manga update by mayshing


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E-depth updates resumes starting Jan 1st! 

And voting comic also resumes to weekly, updating at the same time as Edepth on every wed! 



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Thanks for the B-day wishes and gifts

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Thanks for the B-day wises and gifts that came and are coming, everyone. 
I was doing my best to reply everyone but now it's getting a bit overwhelming, in a good way!

I will list the B-day gifts in honor of the giver as they come. Thanks!!!

Happy B.Day, May!! by JM-Henry by JM-Henry


BDay: In Another World by Guiled-Dragon by Guiled-Dragon




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A helping hand

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So, from one artist to another, I'm reaching out to you for a small favor. 

Over this entire year, I've gathered artists from all around for a collaboration project, and then put together a crowdfunding campaign around the original work we've done. It may not seem like it, but I researched and planned for both rapid success and a slow crawl. Unfortunately, we got the slow crawl and could really use some momentum from people I can trust.

Though I truly didn't want to resort to this, would you be willing to share our campaign in good faith?




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So I did. :) Best wishes to you all who's trying to start your project. I know how it feels like when it's crawling.


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Interview by KhidirIshitar
I want to say firstly thank you for making such a group :iconartistshospital: in the first place, while I haven't made much progress I know that I have a solid resource to build a strong foundation on for practicing art.
I had a few questions for you about art and drawing in general(that I can't remember of course) if you didn't mind.

A: It's an honor to have those questions asked to me, now I finally get the time to sit down and answer them. Hope that my life experience can help to keep some inspired and keep going. :)

how you started off with an interest in art, animation, and the like?

A: Oh, I am one of those... uh, born drawing girl. Everyone has a different start, I was entranced by newspaper comics ever since I was a baby. I could sit there and STARE at the pictures for hours, my mom still talks about how she wondered what I was staring at. When I could pick up a pencil to draw, I would copy from TV programs and learned to draw Bugs Bunny, Cats, mouse, all the cartoon characters. Of course, what's on my paper has nothing to do with what's on screen, I was barely 2 years old. 
Next was dealing with the "frustration" that nothing I drew on paper looked like what's on TV. (some may get that frustration at 14 years old when they start late, I got it at 2-8 years old) I would often poke my paper into bee hives due to frustration, tear it, crumble it apart. 

My wise mom said one word to me that changed all that behavior: "If you want to get good at anything, you have to keep doing it until you get good at it."
And that's the principle I followed later, no more bee hives.

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how you started to practice?
A: Copying, like everyone else, except through out the years my copying has gone to a different level now I copy from master paintings, concept art pieces instead of comics/mangas. The good choice that I made with my copying is that I copied a pretty wide variety of styles, unlike some who stuck to a very limited few. (or 1-2 styles) Due to this choice, I am pretty much able to copy any style I want no matter the difficulty. (all that matters is time spent on adaptation) I do, however, have preference, for example, I like Fairly odd parents, I like looking at it, I like watching it, but drawing that style pains me. I prefer to go from anime to realism, that's my comfort zone. I have a pretty easy time finding different art jobs because of this ability.

I took some classes which benefited me on the basics, like still life sketching, portraiture drawing, painting class. 
I also took animation in college which helped, mostly on basics animation on paper, as well as how to operate a complex program, like After effects, maya, flash, Dreamweaver,  how to animate with photoshop... now of days with youtube, I use youtube to further educate myself on 3D animation, illustration, concept art. (like most people... the way I learn is pretty boring, nothing too exciting)
I also took graphic designs, typography, photography... (while not as in depth the knowledge added to my other works.)

Animation is a more complex medium to study, for a feature film I generally watch the same animated film at least 4-6 times: 1st time: watch the whole story flow. 2nd time: watch the movement of the characters, 3rd time: watch the design of the layout. 4th time: watch timing of things for storytelling, sound, animation etc. If I really really like a certain clip, I watch the break downs. And I usually spend the money to get the bonus versions on DVD for learning.

For an animated series (usually Japanese) I watch for a whole different set of stuff all at once, (because a series take alot more time to finish) thus I don't actually like watching anime, because it's alot of work to watch one for me, 1st: story, I watch how they keep our interest, how they cut from scene to scene, what can be told, what can be skipped, for what reason.... camera movement, combination between 2D and 3D... generally the first eps is most important. I also watch for the animation, in particularly how they "cut" animation workload, because Japanese is pro at that. I generally watch how they do their short cuts and learn how to not overwork the animation. Due to this I learned a load of tricks... Thirdly I watch for production management. Like how different clips varied from one another in timing, where they managed the money shot and where they placed less budget on shots, and how they managed to make a whole eps interesting even though there are plenty of stills and loops. In anime it's pretty clear when it's low budget, but every choice is made with intentions. And I also watch for how they make the production "fun" for the people on the team, it's an extremely difficult job for any producer to do. 


For manga, I would keep mangas that matches closely to my current need and style (like either lineart, tones, or paneling) and often pick it up to just go over it once in a while to think about my mistakes and observe how others avoided it, or what they did to resolve theirs. Paneling is one of the most common thing I study, as well as storytelling, and pacing of panels. I generally look for interesting solution in panels, where they placed negative space, and what effect it created, thickness of the lines here vs there and why. And camera flow in Manga and how it relates to it's layout on the page being in a book form. etc. 
And what is more pleasant to the eye vs less pleasant, what can be left out and not drawn and still work?

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 how you kept your momentum?
A: If you have a large goal with your art and what you want to achieve, you will be able to keep momentum easily. 
And secondly, I am usually not that much of a perfectionist.... if it's due time, I finish, I wrap up, it doesn't matter if it's not the best piece, nor if its not the perfect piece. 
As long as it's passing, it's decent, it came out as how I calculated it to be, I am good with it. I will just have to plan better for the next piece. 

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Could you go into detail about deadlines?
and how you set them up so you condition yourself into a consistent process of work that shifts you into practicing art?

A: Mainly this came from posting web manga for over 10 years.... O_Ob Updating a regular web manga takes discipline, and I timed myself on how fast I finish a page, as well as when I started to loose focus. It's a good idea to get up to get a drink every hour or so before losing steam. When I am busy I try to squeeze in 1-2 hours every few days including hours on train to do my work. If I get really busy then I cut my other entertainment time, food time for art. (use coffee to curb my appetite) just to get things done. 
I also time myself on how far I can go each time I sketch per night/day, and how many pages I can ink in one night/day, as well as how many pages I can tone per day. 
I also pay attention to my best time to start working and when I am less efficient. (I try to avoid starting late from my most efficient time period, and avoid distractions until I got into the flow)
I generally finish all of the things I need to do ahead, or on time, but I have a bad tendency to overbook so occasionally I get too tired to work on things that I said I would do. 

A Christian preacher Joyce Meyer once said: "I give everyday a name, like this is my work out day." 
So I give everyday a name after the task I want to do. I generally only schedule 2 tasks per day right now and that tend to take up the whole day just fine. (after cutting out time I had to set aside for family business and other things) 

And I put together music lists that helps me to get into the mood for making specific series. Usually after you stopped for a while, starting back into the flow is the hardest part, the music tracks that I use to relate to my work usually works for me.

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 and what made you decide to dedicate to be someone who wants to travel the world selling your art?
(it's been awhile since I read that journal at the group hopefully that's accurate) 
A: 
Financial reason: I was traveling around to sell my work for 1-2 years full time, 5-6 years part time, because I was able to survive well enough doing that, 
and I have good convention friends who helped share the cost. 

Spiritual reason: erm, I will call it Divine direction? (or whatever you wish to think it)
I had a dream where I was passing by an animation studio in the city that I wanted to go to, but it was empty, no one was in it.
I knew then my route really is going independent, working under others wasn't really meant for me though I can do it short term, 
and I had enough presence on the web to keep going indy with constant commission requests coming in from clients. 

Community reason: I really really enjoy the convention going small business community (for the most part) everyone is hard working, honest, and mostly law-biding to make a living. 
The people in this group tend to be very nice to each other, not trying to kill each other but try to survive together. This group of people are incredibly helpful to each other, giving tips to each other for free, and warn each other of danger, bad cons. Tell each other about good money source too. I have found networking with this group of people to be extremely helpful.

Emotional reason: I really enjoy the field, as well as being able to meet my fans in person. just being able to sell my own stuff feels good, especially when you meet someone who likes YOUR stuff. And traveling with friends all over country = awesome.

Educational reason: Learning to sell my own products also gave me experience in running a small business, as well as ability to organize trips, events and learn about taxes and laws, contract reading and making. It's a good learning experience. 

Future: I am currently moving onto another stage of life trying to bring out more online products like games and tutorials on youtube,
and hopefully I would be able to increase revenue online to lessen my traveling burden. Because traveling does wear you out after a while.

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and what do you hope to achieve as an end goal?
A: Living solely on my own original productions and series I created, help to rise awareness to social issues, people group and cultures that I deem important through my stories.
My person work E-depth Angel tells of concerns I have about DNA rights, Chinese cultural problems in parenting, justice issues between different people groups. etc
2Masters talks about my concerns on different philosophy and beliefs and in truth, what I struggle with across different cultures and beliefs as well.
Mystic Shenshu is a promotion of a slowly dying art form, Asian Calligraphy, it's also a piece of story that helps me remember my grandpa that was a calligrapher.
My personal end goal is that through my stories, people can learn something meaningful, I have always enjoyed learning through stories when I was younger. =) 


That's all. Hope you find this helpful. :)

E-depth joins the MM premium manga today

Journal Entry: Wed Nov 6, 2013, 1:23 PM
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E-Depth manga has become a premium member officially onMangaMagazine.net today:www.mangamagazine.net/manga-an…

 This means I get to get paid (much better than being feature) for people reading my comic on MM, depending on how many people joined the subscription program and read my manga update behind the wall (which will be 15 pages faster than any other sites per month) once MM caught up to other site's update progress. O_o 

I am going to be working full time for a while on E-depth pages. Expect some updates soon. (good thing I have a few months savings now to go through this transition time.) 




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Doing Voice over, and 5 hours later... D=

Journal Entry: Sat Oct 26, 2013, 8:44 AM
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I should have typed up a script on the first go. lol 
What was originally planned for 1-2 hours ended up being 5-6 hours.
No, there's nothing natural about voice over, not even on an already recorded video!

OHHHH goodness. I am learning alot....
Filming for Kickstarter is also a learning experience. Soooo much bloopers. 
I am one of those people who can't stop laughing once I started, 
nor can I control myself to stop tearing up once I started laughing. 
I'm so horrible as an actor... :faint: 
Oh the horror of "Behind the scenes..." XD 


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NYCC 2013 dealer booth 1883

Journal Entry: Tue Oct 8, 2013, 8:43 AM
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For those who are going and wants to find me, this is where I am this year, pretty similar location to last year. 1883, almost the other end of the entrance, at a corner booth. 
This year I am teaming with Goodystuff, :iconlossingfeathers:  and :iconmb-ai:

 



See you all there. :D


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